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Wednesday, August 16, 2006
Cheney Singled Out for Outrageous Comments


Dick Cheney had some rather controversial comments on the outcome of the Lamont victory in the Connecticut Democratic primary last week. I couldn't find a complete transcript, but i found an article about it on the MOST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS.

Cheney suggested Wednesday that Lamont's victory might encourage "the al Qaeda types" who want to "break the will of the American people in terms of our ability to stay in the fight and complete the task."

Outrageous right? I guess it depends on how you look at it.

Ned Lamont will stand strong for the people of Connecticut, and put tough and smart foreign policies ahead of the politics of fear and more "stay the course" failures. Republicans will stop at nothing to make sure that the November elections are not a referendum on their misguided policy in Iraq or on the way they have run our country for the past six years. Unfortunately, this time the facts are getting in their way.

The American people are ready to change an administration that let Osama bin Laden escape. They are ready to change a Congress that let precious years go by without demanding the implementation of the recommendations of the bipartisan 9/11 Commission to keep us safe.

-Ted Kennedy


"Americans aren't buying the same, old, tired, Republican line that being strong on national security means being wrong on Iraq. It's a ridiculous assertion and the sort of divisive politics that the American people reject. The truth is this White House and Republican Congress have made America less safe by stubbornly staying the course in Iraq in the face of mistake after mistake. With our troops in the middle of an Iraqi civil war, a crisis brewing in the Middle East, and threats to our safety like North Korea and Iran on the rise, the American people understand something the Bush White House does not—we need a new direction in Iraq to keep our country safe."

-Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid


"I believe this administration, in its policies, is actually encouraging the recruitment of terrorists," Kerry told CNN's "American Morning."

-John Kerry


That is just a sample of some Democratic rhetoric regarding the War on Terrorism. Anyone who watches the news constantly hears that the US is less safe because of Iraq and that Bush’s policies help recruit new terrorists. There is no difference between that and what Cheney said last week.

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Blogger Democrat said...
That is just a sample of some Democratic rhetoric regarding the War on Terrorism. Anyone who watches the news constantly hears that the US is less safe because of Iraq and that Bush’s policies help recruit new terrorists. There is no difference between that and what Cheney said last week.

Democratic rhetoric? Right. You are just a dumb, young kid who needs to either get his facts straight or terminate this blog; it's stupid. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about; you showed that on the other blog.

Explain to me WTF Iraq had to do with 9/11? If you remember correctly this entire mess spawned from 9/11. Bush himself admitted Sadaam had nothing to do with 9/11. Then, we heard the story that Sadaam had WMD's... WRONG! Stop watching Fox. The WMD's they found were pre-'91... They were all but uselsss. This is another bull shit war, just like Vietnam. Furthermore, the war in Iraq HAS caused more terrorism. Um, hello... CIVIL WAR in Iraq. The world, esepcially Muslims, are pissed off at America, moreso than they already were. Bush has turned us into an imperialistic nation.

This senseless war has caused nothing but death, destruction, treachery, tyranny, and idiots like you perpetuate it with your stupid justifications that people buy into.

I honestly hope you can find the humility to look in the mirror and be ashamed of yourself.

BTW, there is a huge difference... What Cheney said was far from the truth... What the Democrats said IS the truth.


Democrat

Blogger Media Tycoon said...
If the US abandoned Iraq, it would help terrorists. Why do you think almost no one voted for an immediate pullout of Iraq when they had the chance?

Your hatred for anyone who thinks differently than you is kind of getting annoying. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them wrong or dumb.

Furthermore, I don't know where you got to talking about 9/11 and Iraq. I never mentioned anything about 9/11 in this blog. WMD? Did I say anything about WMD? It is obvious to me that you are just a dumb kid whose mother should have terminated your life whilst you were still in her room. People like you make me pro-abortion.

Do you want to know why politics is so polarized today? It is people like you. I went on the liberal blog and was civil and fair. It was you and your people that started the name-calling and shrillness. If you ever want to change anyone's mind regarding politics you had better use some class and tact from here on out.

Blogger Democrat said...
If the US abandoned Iraq, it would help terrorists. Why do you think almost no one voted for an immediate pullout of Iraq when they had the chance?

Wrong again... Man, what are you? Like 5 for 5? They don't pull out for one reason and one reason only... THE CIVIL WAR WOULD GET WORSE! Has nothing to do with terrorism against us; nothing.

Your hatred for anyone who thinks differently than you is kind of getting annoying. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them wrong or dumb.

No, I don't hate you like you hate me, I think I see the world differently.

Furthermore, I don't know where you got to talking about 9/11 and Iraq. I never mentioned anything about 9/11 in this blog. WMD? Did I say anything about WMD? It is obvious to me that you are just a dumb kid whose mother should have terminated your life whilst you were still in her room. People like you make me pro-abortion.

No, you didn't mention it; however the usual Republican rhetoric is that Sadaam was complicit in the atrocities that happened that day. Okay, so explain to me why you support a war when you just admitted that Iraq was not involved in 9/11, nor had WMD's? Dumb kid? Right... Lol, oh I thought Republicans were pro-life? Hypocrit.... People like me? Intelligent people that can see through the Republican BS? Right. Nice compassionate conservative tolerance.

Do you want to know why politics is so polarized today? It is people like you. I went on the liberal blog and was civil and fair. It was you and your people that started the name-calling and shrillness. If you ever want to change anyone's mind regarding politics you had better use some class and tact from here on out.

Bi-partisan agreements don't happen for one reason.... REPUBLICANS ARE GREEDY... Ever hear of PNAC??? Go look it up. They have had this planned since Clinton was president. So long as they control Congress they are going to do whatever they please... Until Democrats stop being whimps and filibuster there ass's.

If you want to change anyone's mind, you'd better stop being so dumb. Go read a book.

It is obvious that you are a Republican for one reason and one reason only: Your parents are rich, or well-to-do people... Dumb Southerners vote for Republicans, or people with money... Simple as that... Which one are you?

I don't have patience for people like you... I don't have patience for people who are staggeringly ignorant... And ignorant because you CHOOSE to be... The death and destruction doesn't phase you... What kind of a person does that make you?


Democrat

Blogger Media Tycoon said...
If you think Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism, then you are the stupidest person alive. Stop watching Al-jezzera. The only logical conclusion I can come to is that you are a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer. Iraq was on the US terror watch list in 1979-2004 (it was taken off for part of the 80's so we could support them in their war against Iran). Read a book you dumb fuck. Anytime we show weakness, the terrorists will use it as propoganda to prove to the Islamic masses that they can beat us. Cowardly withdraw might seem like a good plan to cowards like you, but those of us that still have our balls know it won't accomplish anything.

I don't hate you, you worthless piece of shit. I was civil at first, but you took out all the stops, and now I have sunk to your terrorist sympathizing level.

Conservative tolerance. You should know that doesn't exist. I would saw your fucking head off if I could get away with it.

Not all Republican's are pro-life. I generally am, except when it comes to you.

No. Bi-partisan agreements don't work because Democrats ideologically cleanse their party of moderates (Lieberman).

Here is a list of books I have read in the last 6 months.

1. Disinformation : 22 Media Myths That Undermine the War on Terror
2. A Fool's Errand: A Novel of the South During Reconstruction
3. Son of the Morning Star: Custer and The Little Bighorn
4. The Tycoons: How Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller, Jay Gould, and J. P. Morgan Invented the American Supereconomy
5. A Short History of World War II
6. State of Fear
7. Up from Slavery: An Autobiography (Penguin Classics)
8. Shadow War: The Untold Story of How Bush Is Winning the War on Terror
9. Major Problems in American History Since 1945: Documents and Essays (Major Problems in American History Series)
10. Plunkitt of Tammany Hall: A Series of Very Plain Talks on Very Practical Politics
11. The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else
12. One Bullet Away: The Making of a Marine Officer

That is two books a month. Maybe that isn't impressive enough, but I read constantly.

My parents were lower-middle class when I was growing up, but they are middle class now since the kids moved out. My dad is a life-long Democrat, and my mom is a McCain Republican.

You are the dumbest piece of shit I have ever come in contact with on the internet. You don't know me or where I come from. You are prejudice. You have prejudged me, and you were dead fucking wrong.

I can't stand you because you go around calling everyone ignorant who doesn't think like you. THAT IS THE DEFINTION OF IGNORANT. I have more liberal friends than you have total friends (no one likes someone that blames all their problems on rich people) and they all enjoy reading my blog. Why? BECAUE I MAKE THEM THINK. You are ruining that tradition because every time you open your mouth, you subtract from the sum human knowledge.

I don't understand what you want. What conservative isn't stupid, ignorant or greedy? If you can't name anyone, then you probably deserve to live in North Korea. It is a nice place where communists (like you) can live in a peaceful paradise without having to worry about any crazy conservatives saying things you don't like. Good luck comrade.

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you think Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism, then you are the stupidest person alive. Stop watching Al-jezzera. The only logical conclusion I can come to is that you are a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer. Iraq was on the US terror watch list in 1979-2004 (it was taken off for part of the 80's so we could support them in their war against Iran). Read a book you dumb fuck. Anytime we show weakness, the terrorists will use it as propoganda to prove to the Islamic masses that they can beat us. Cowardly withdraw might seem like a good plan to cowards like you, but those of us that still have our balls know it won't accomplish anything.

Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism towards us; if you think so, YOU ARE the stupidest person alive. What about Iran? Syria? Egypt? Shall I go on? I see you enjoy racial profiling. Terrorist sympathizer??? Can you develop a coherent thought of your own? Yes, Iraq was on the list, so were several other countries. We started this "War on Terror" after 9/11... Iraq had nothing to do with it, but I see how you are... You would like to invade every Arab country. It doesn't matter to you all the death that is sewn... What do you care? Read a book you dumb fuck?? Hmmm, I attend the University of Michigan; I'm a socioloy student. When I'm done there I've already been accepted at Cambridge... I should read a book? Right. You don't think that Usama wanted us to get involved elsewhere? We gave him what he wanted. We are so concerned with Iraq that we don't have the resources to worry about Usama. What did Bush say? "To tell you the truth, I'm not all that worried about bin Laden." Yeah, he cares about fighting terrorism. Cowardly withdraw? Oh, geee... I'm surprised you didn't give the usual "cut and run" BS... First of all, several Senators, even John McCain, support a slow extraction of troops. John McCain is a good Republican; a man with integrity.

I don't hate you, you worthless piece of shit. I was civil at first, but you took out all the stops, and now I have sunk to your terrorist sympathizing level.

False Dichotomy...

Conservative tolerance. You should know that doesn't exist. I would saw your fucking head off if I could get away with it.

And you're supposed to be intelligent?

No. Bi-partisan agreements don't work because Democrats ideologically cleanse their party of moderates (Lieberman).

Bi-partisan agreements do work... Furthermore, I support Lieberman and hope he wins. I don't like his support for the war, but not everyone agrees on every single thing. Don't generalize all Democrats because a primary. Moreover, have you seen the polls? Most of America want us out of Iraq, therefore, you are in the minority.

Here is a list of books I have read in the last 6 months.

1. Disinformation : 22 Media Myths That Undermine the War on Terror
2. A Fool's Errand: A Novel of the South During Reconstruction
3. Son of the Morning Star: Custer and The Little Bighorn
4. The Tycoons: How Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller, Jay Gould, and J. P. Morgan Invented the American Supereconomy
5. A Short History of World War II
6. State of Fear
7. Up from Slavery: An Autobiography (Penguin Classics)
8. Shadow War: The Untold Story of How Bush Is Winning the War on Terror
9. Major Problems in American History Since 1945: Documents and Essays (Major Problems in American History Series)
10. Plunkitt of Tammany Hall: A Series of Very Plain Talks on Very Practical Politics
11. The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else
12. One Bullet Away: The Making of a Marine Officer

That is two books a month. Maybe that isn't impressive enough, but I read constantly.


That's good, but how much did you comprehend? I've read much more than that... I have to, it's a part of school. U of M is one of the best schools in the country... So, don't use a book list as though it will trump my education; it won't.

My parents were lower-middle class when I was growing up, but they are middle class now since the kids moved out. My dad is a life-long Democrat, and my mom is a McCain Republican.

Your dad is a smart man, your mom is okay... McCain isn't too bad...

You are the dumbest piece of shit I have ever come in contact with on the internet. You don't know me or where I come from. You are prejudice. You have prejudged me, and you were dead fucking wrong.

First of all, I could destroy you in every single subject... Secondly, you are ignorant when it comes to politics. Do you know what the defintion of "ignorant" is? I'm ignorant in somethings; it isn't bad. Knowing what you are ignorant in allows you to remedy it. I have no pre-judged you, I've merely read your blog.

I can't stand you because you go around calling everyone ignorant who doesn't think like you. THAT IS THE DEFINTION OF IGNORANT. I have more liberal friends than you have total friends (no one likes someone that blames all their problems on rich people) and they all enjoy reading my blog. Why? BECAUE I MAKE THEM THINK. You are ruining that tradition because every time you open your mouth, you subtract from the sum human knowledge.

I don't understand what you want. What conservative isn't stupid, ignorant or greedy? If you can't name anyone, then you probably deserve to live in North Korea. It is a nice place where communists (like you) can live in a peaceful paradise without having to worry about any crazy conservatives saying things you don't like. Good luck comrade.


No, if you don't think like me that is fine, but you are ignorant because of the shit you spewed out on the other blog. You clearly showed a lack of understanding in economics. Oh, you have more liberal friends than I have friends? Yeah, like that isn't subjective... Now, you've just done what you accused me of doing... You're a smart one... Now, I'm a communist? Apparently you haven't even the merest understanding between the two completely different political ideologies... Trust me, you are closer to fascism than I am communism... You need to stop repeating the Rovian BS... You are a fool. If people listened to me and read my blog, they'd see you are an idiot. I'm just waiting for you to ban me...

Conservatives are stupid, in my opinion. Not traditional conservatives, but neo-cons. They are malevolent clowns...
All you have shown is stupidity... Staggeringly stupid remarks... You obviously don't know why we're in Iraq, you compare me to a communist because I believe in feeding the hungry and clothing the naked. I point out logical fallacies in your arguments, so that means I'm dumb in your eyes... You need to grow up and get educated. Let me recommend a book for you. Just read it... Once you've read it, research the stuff in it... Then, if you still believe what you believe now, fine... But just read the book. Don't disregard it because of the author... The book is called: Red, White, & Liberal: Why the Left is right and the Right is wrong. It is by Alan Colmes, cohost of the show Hannity & Colmes. Give it a try, you might learn something.

Democrat

Blogger Democrat said...
That last comment was me; this thing was acting up.

Democrat

Blogger Democrat said...

Blogger Media Tycoon said...
I guess you are still taking me seriously, because you keep pointing at everything i say as if i literally meant it. I'll become serious again for a second.

1. i never said anything about invading all Arab countries. i don't know what you are talking about. in fact, i'm not sure i have ever defended or criticized the Iraq war on this blog. maybe in passing here or there, but you do not know my stance on the war. so i'm guessing you're a mind reader. well madam Chloe, tell me what i think about Iraq. i want to know.

2. my list of books...i read much more than that too. i read a good portion of two news papers everyday(nyt and wsj). those are the books i read front to cover (so obviously not counting books is skimmed or just read a chapter here and there).

3. liberals are stupid in my opinion. not all liberals, just you.

4. alan colmes...never heard of him. i dont watch FAUX NEWS. i guess you watch too much of that propaganda shit. its rotting you're brain.

5. You couldn't destroy me in any subject. i have shown this blog to my lib friends and they agree that we should force you and your spouse to abort every child you conceive.

6. If you read free to choose by Milton Friedman, i will read red, white, and liberal by Alan Colmes.

7. You don’t know what I think about the NSA wiretaps. All you know is what I said about BJ wiretapping. Are you the fucker that thought BJ was LBJ? BJ is Bill "blow job" Jefferson Clinton. As for the wiretaps, I was about to post a blog on it until I had to respond to your posts.

Blogger Democrat said...
1. i never said anything about invading all Arab countries. i don't know what you are talking about. in fact, i'm not sure i have ever defended or criticized the Iraq war on this blog. maybe in passing here or there, but you do not know my stance on the war. so i'm guessing you're a mind reader. well madam Chloe, tell me what i think about Iraq. i want to know.

You said that Iraq was essential to fighting terrorism, I pointed out that it isn't. By that comment, as well as perusing around your blog, I think it is pretty obvious that you support the war. If you honestly believe it is essential to fighting terrorism, wouldn't Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc... qualify as essential? Shall we illegally invade them, too? The attackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia, so says the media.


2. my list of books...i read much more than that too. i read a good portion of two news papers everyday(nyt and wsj). those are the books i read front to cover (so obviously not counting books is skimmed or just read a chapter here and there)


That is good. I also read several different online news sources, i.e., ABC News, CNN, Common Dreams, Reuters, MSNBC, The Huffington Post, Fox News, BBC News, Google News, USA Today, Daily Kos, NY Times, Buzz Flash, World Nut Daily, The Washtington Post, etc... I have the top stories shown to me on my Firefox browser. I read tons of books myself, most of them are fictional, but I read tons of non-fiction books; I have to for school. :-)

3. liberals are stupid in my opinion. not all liberals, just you.

Why? Because I disagree with your justifictions? Because I point out logical fallacies in your arguments? Not a very good reason. BTW, that wasn't articulated very well. You say that "liberals(plural, meaning more than one)are stupid", but then you say: "not all liberals, just you"... Hmmm...

4. alan colmes...never heard of him. i dont watch FAUX NEWS. i guess you watch too much of that propaganda shit. its rotting you're brain.

Well, if I watched the Fox News propaganda and believed it that would make me a Republican, no? They are very bias. Secondly, how can you claim to know so much about Politics but not know who Alan Colmes is?

5. You couldn't destroy me in any subject. i have shown this blog to my lib friends and they agree that we should force you and your spouse to abort every child you conceive.

No, don't shit yourself, I could destroy you in ANY subject; trust me, I'm highly educated. If indeed your liberals friends agree with you, I guess your stupidity has rubbed off on them... Also, you are a hypocrite... :-0

6. If you read free to choose by Milton Friedman, i will read red, white, and liberal by Alan Colmes.

Ahhh, the famous economist... Sure, I will see if my library has a copy of it; I'm sure they do.

7. You don’t know what I think about the NSA wiretaps. All you know is what I said about BJ wiretapping. Are you the fucker that thought BJ was LBJ? BJ is Bill "blow job" Jefferson Clinton. As for the wiretaps, I was about to post a blog on it until I had to respond to your posts.

No, I don't know what you think about them. I was just merely informing you of the news, 'tis all. Yes, I did think you were referring to Lyndon Baines Johnson... I would assume that someone who portrays him or herself as intelligent would not refer to one of our best presidents as "BJ". I could careless about his personal life, his presidency was all I cared about. Furthermore, he was authorized to wiretap, Bush wasn't. Bush only thought he was authorized because of Article II of the constitution; he was wrong. The Federal Judge said so today... :-)

Lots of luck...

BTW, if you think swearing and tearing another person down with juvenile remarks amplifies your argument, you're wrong. It weakens it.

Democrat

Blogger Media Tycoon said...
LMAO...

BTW, if you think swearing and tearing another person down with juvenile remarks amplifies your argument, you're wrong. It weakens it.

Honestly...you don't really mean that do you? Have you read your own posts?

Listen, I know you are young and probably fairly new to the political game, but you are the one that got me all fired up. I didn't want to get pissed and resort to name-calling. You used those tactics and you baited me into it as well. If you don't agree with me, debate my idea and tell me why it is wrong. Don't talk about puncuation, my age, or the level of education you think i have. I am actually willing to listen if you are honest about what you have to say. Who knows, you might even convert me on certain issues. If you drop the bs, then i will too. otherwise we are going to go nowhere and this is just going to be a yelling/name-calling match.

Blogger Democrat said...
Honestly...you don't really mean that do you? Have you read your own posts?

I don't swear directly at you. When I call you ignorant that's because I believe you are on certain issues. Also, I certainly don't write stupid comments about abortion or bring your family into it.


Listen, I know you are young and probably fairly new to the political game, but you are the one that got me all fired up. I didn't want to get pissed and resort to name-calling. You used those tactics and you baited me into it as well. If you don't agree with me, debate my idea and tell me why it is wrong. Don't talk about puncuation, my age, or the level of education you think i have. I am actually willing to listen if you are honest about what you have to say. Who knows, you might even convert me on certain issues. If you drop the bs, then i will too. otherwise we are going to go nowhere and this is just going to be a yelling/name-calling match.


No, I'm not fairly new, but you seem to be. I didn't use any tactics to "bait" you into juvenile remarks. You did that entirely on your own. I've told you why you were wrong on the other blog. I, as well as several others told you why you were wrong. Your punctuation I don't care about. This thing doesn't have a spell-checker and even I mess up, we're human. The education thing I brought up because you brought up the books you read. And if we can debate intelligently I don't see any reason to keep up the tit for tat BS.

Look, if everyone was the same and agreed on every single thing, that would make for a pretty boring world, don't you think? As I said, I don't hate Republicans, I think I see the world differently than they do.

I'll read this blog on a daily basis, you can read mine, and we'll go from there.

Democrat

Blogger Media Tycoon said...
for the sake of not dragging this out any longer than i have to, i won't go back and quote you. whether or not you intended to bait me, you did. telling someone to read a book would normally prompt someone to provide a list of books they read. anyways i'm over it.

Look, if everyone was the same and agreed on every single thing, that would make for a pretty boring world, don't you think? As I said, I don't hate Republicans, I think I see the world differently than they do.

I'll read this blog on a daily basis, you can read mine, and we'll go from there.


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